Ticket #4557 (closed task: fixed)

Opened 3 years ago

Last modified 3 years ago

Please block hal from rawhide

Reported by: rhughes Owned by: ausil
Milestone: Component: koji
Keywords: Cc: nsoranzo@…
Blocked By: Blocking:

Description

I've retired hal from rawhide. Please block it from any future composes.

Thanks,

Richard.

Change History

comment:1 Changed 3 years ago by rdieter

I'd prefer to simply following the orphaning process at this point. imo, there's a more-than-slim chance someone else will pick up maintaining this.

comment:2 Changed 3 years ago by rhughes

I've orphaned this in F15. I'm also not happy on carrying on with HAL in f16; HAL is a huge system daemon with all manner of things going on as root. It's not the kind of package you can just "maintain" by re-packaging up a tarball every few months. I would go as far to say that HAL will be a security problem some time in the future. A lot of the code is hugely legacy and just plain _scary_.

comment:3 follow-up: ↓ 4 Changed 3 years ago by notting

So is things like running config tools as root, but we still have some. If someone else wants to deal with that problem for non-default installs, I'm inclined to let them, as long as they're walking into it with their eyes open, and we're doing work to make sure we don't need it for anything we intend to ship as a default.

comment:4 in reply to: ↑ 3 Changed 3 years ago by rhughes

Replying to notting:

If someone else wants to deal with that problem for non-default installs...

As long as that person understands the undertaking. :-)

I don't mind somebody un-retiring HAL if there is someone desperate for the functionality of a dead project, I just don't think leaving it in limbo until such a person steps up is a great idea.

comment:5 Changed 3 years ago by rhughes

Nobody has yet volunteered to maintain HAL in F15.

comment:6 Changed 3 years ago by ausil

  • Owner changed from rel-eng@… to ausil
  • Status changed from new to assigned

rawhide at this pointa nd when the ticket was filed is targeting f16 i have blocked hal from dist-f16 if you want this removed from f15 also please say so.

comment:7 follow-ups: ↓ 8 ↓ 9 Changed 3 years ago by cwickert

I think this should not be removed / blocked from rawhide until the HAL removal feature was not approved by FESCO.

comment:8 in reply to: ↑ 7 Changed 3 years ago by rhughes

Replying to cwickert:

HalRemoval? HAL removal feature was not approved by FESCO.

I'm not sure it really matters if FESCO approves the HAL removal feature, hal is obsolete upstream and maintainerless in F15 and F16+ and will bitrot and fail to build sometime in the future.

comment:9 in reply to: ↑ 7 Changed 3 years ago by nsoranzo

  • Cc nsoranzo@… added

Replying to cwickert:

I think this should not be removed / blocked from rawhide until the HAL removal feature was not approved by FESCO.

I just submitted the Feature to the Feature Wrangler for Fedora 16:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:FeatureReadyForWrangler

comment:10 Changed 3 years ago by nsoranzo

  • Status changed from assigned to closed
  • Resolution set to fixed
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