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My IRC nick is: bmbouter
Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this ticket: I was threatened by a community member to have them call my boss for discussing that someone's comments were disrespectful.
Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction: Southern_Gentlem
Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on this feedback: I'm really not sure, but maybe have Southern_Gentlem not make threats to people
Any additional notes or logs: Here is the full log paste of the incident
2015-08-26 09:33:57 -- You are now known as bmbouter 2015-08-26 09:35:09 sebastian36 Okay. Now there is another conflict: libpng with libtxc_dxtn, although this might be older 2015-08-26 09:37:57 --> rkratky (rkratky@nat/redhat/x-rkxshjgpqdxglqvr) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:38:20 sebastian36 If I try to search things in Apper it says: SearchGroups not supported by backend 2015-08-26 09:38:36 Southern_Gentlem stay away from apper for now and lets use dnf 2015-08-26 09:39:09 Southern_Gentlem bmbouter, see the Channel FAQ about away nick changes 2015-08-26 09:39:22 <-- thunderbirdtr (~thunderbi@fedora/thunderbirdtr) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-08-26 09:39:26 --> nilekada (29bf4db6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.191.77.182) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:39:53 --> indr (~indr@2a02:120b:2c22:410:6257:18ff:fe76:1a47) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:39:58 bmbouter Southern_Gentlem: nick changing is part of how I use IRC 2015-08-26 09:40:00 --> bitkiller (~bitkiller@191.179.238.246) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:40:05 Southern_Gentlem bmbouter, see the Channel FAQ about away nick changes 2015-08-26 09:40:39 bmbouter Southern_Gentlem: I've just read it and this doesn't apply to me 2015-08-26 09:40:50 Southern_Gentlem you will see 2015-08-26 09:40:52 --> Relsak (~relsak@unaffiliated/kasler) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:41:05 Grinnz bmbouter, No one cares when you go afk 2015-08-26 09:41:11 linux-modder afk is frowned here 2015-08-26 09:41:21 bmbouter wow everyone who has helped me is piling on 2015-08-26 09:41:25 bmbouter hello everyone 2015-08-26 09:41:27 sebastian36 Okay, trying to erase kernel-debug-* gives me 3 kernel debug packages, but also networkmanager-l2tp and plasma-l2tp and xl2tp to be removed 2015-08-26 09:41:43 Grinnz bmbouter, it is just useless clutter to the channel 2015-08-26 09:42:02 linux-modder not everyone hides join/parts bmbouter 2015-08-26 09:42:05 -- Mode #fedora [+o Southern_Gentlem] by ChanServ 2015-08-26 09:42:14 Grinnz join/parts have nothing to do with nick changes 2015-08-26 09:42:21 @Southern_Gentlem bmbouter, i am telling you it does apply to you 2015-08-26 09:42:41 bmbouter Southern_Gentlem: it talks mainly of games, these changes aren't part of a game it's work thing 2015-08-26 09:42:49 <-- sebastian36 (~sebastian@cable-78-34-58-39.netcologne.de) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-08-26 09:43:01 --> ramblurr (uid4204@amarok/developer/Ramblurr) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:44:18 bmbouter I get referred to this FAQ often when I'm in this channel yet no one tells me a solution to this problem 2015-08-26 09:44:21 @Southern_Gentlem bmbouter, i think you better read the Channel FAQ about away messages as i instructed you 2015-08-26 09:44:29 --> jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:44:42 bmbouter Southern_Gentlem: I already have, isn't that clear? 2015-08-26 09:44:56 --> sebastian36 (~sebastian@cable-78-34-58-39.netcologne.de) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:45:00 @Southern_Gentlem no because it says nothing about games 2015-08-26 09:45:19 sebastian36 hey, I'm back. Sorry, my trial version of the app suddenly ran ot 2015-08-26 09:45:20 bmbouter I'm in many IRC channels many of them expect an _away behavior. they are free to choose that. I use /nick -all to easily manage that which also affects this channel 2015-08-26 09:45:23 sebastian36 out 2015-08-26 09:45:25 <-- HarveyPwca (~HarveyPwc@50-196-205-130-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has quit (Quit: The Pwca has left the building) 2015-08-26 09:45:25 Grinnz bmbouter, "infrequently" does not mean "whenever you go afk" 2015-08-26 09:45:29 bmbouter so what do I do here exactly oh wise ones? 2015-08-26 09:45:43 bmbouter Grinnz if you want to help please advise 2015-08-26 09:46:02 fenrus02 marking yourself /away is not a problem. announcing to the world is annoying at best. 2015-08-26 09:46:07 @Southern_Gentlem bmbouter,now you are trying to change the issue 2015-08-26 09:46:09 --> HarveyPwca (~HarveyPwc@50-196-205-130-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:46:19 bmbouter no if you want to help me then help 2015-08-26 09:46:28 fenrus02 entitlement++ 2015-08-26 09:46:33 bmbouter this is a practical problem for me 2015-08-26 09:46:41 sebastian36 So, when I try do remove kernel-debug* i get 3 kernel-debug- packages, but also Networkmanager-l2tp, plasma-nm-l2tp and xl2tpd as packages to remove 2015-08-26 09:46:44 bmbouter fenrus02: your comments are not helpful 2015-08-26 09:46:45 Grinnz what channel expects a nick change? that's ridiculous 2015-08-26 09:46:48 --> mdelapp (~mogro@c-73-12-109-45.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:46:54 -- Mode #fedora [+q bmbouter!@*] by fedbot 2015-08-26 09:46:54 @Southern_Gentlem just be warned the next time you have an away nick change or it messages the channel you are away you will be kicked 2015-08-26 09:46:56 @fedbot bmbouter, You have been quieted in this channel for 15 minutes. Please read the FAQ in the channel topic and consider changing your approach and/or the behavior that is disrupting the channel. Take a break and consider things. 2015-08-26 09:47:59 --> bmbouter (bmbouter@nat/redhat/x-lfpkpccjagsuxopg) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:47:59 -- Topic for #fedora is "Fedora 21, 22 end-user support.|| Please READ: http://tinyurl.com/chanfaq || Common bugs/op: http://tinyurl.com/f21-bugs http://tinyurl.com/f22bugs || IRC Feedback: http://tinyurl.com/fedoraircsig || Updated Live isos: http://tinyurl.com/Live-respins || Default to OPEN: http://tinyurl.com/default-open" 2015-08-26 09:47:59 -- Topic set by N3LRX (n3lrx@fedora/N3LRX) on Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:05:17 2015-08-26 09:47:59 -- Channel #fedora: 548 nicks (2 ops, 0 voices, 546 normals) 2015-08-26 09:47:59 -- PvNotice(ChanServ): "Any advice you read here is provided by individual community members. You should use it at your OWN RISK. This advice is owned by each individual, and does NOT represent the views of Freenode, Fedora or Red Hat. This channel may be logged" 2015-08-26 09:48:01 -- Channel created on Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:59:18 2015-08-26 09:48:06 sebastian36 how do i do that? 2015-08-26 09:48:11 bmbouter so how does this silence work? 2015-08-26 09:48:11 -- #fedora: Cannot send to channel 2015-08-26 09:48:26 Southern_Gentlem cut and paste 2015-08-26 09:48:38 fenrus02 echo n |dnf remove kernel-debug* |fpaste 2015-08-26 09:48:40 fenrus02 should work 2015-08-26 09:48:53 sebastian36 [sebastian@Fedora-Sebi ~]$ sudo dnf remove kernel-debug* 2015-08-26 09:48:55 sebastian36 Abhängigkeiten sind aufgelöst. 2015-08-26 09:48:57 sebastian36 ============================================================================= 2015-08-26 09:48:59 sebastian36 Paket Arch Version Paketquelle 2015-08-26 09:49:01 sebastian36 Größe 2015-08-26 09:49:02 fenrus02 NOT HERE! 2015-08-26 09:49:03 sebastian36 ============================================================================= 2015-08-26 09:49:05 sebastian36 Entfernen: 2015-08-26 09:49:07 sebastian36 NetworkManager-l2tp x86_64 0.9.8.7-3.fc22 @System 338 k 2015-08-26 09:49:09 sebastian36 kernel-debug-core x86_64 4.1.5-200.fc22 @System 43 M 2015-08-26 09:49:11 sebastian36 kernel-debug-modules x86_64 4.1.5-200.fc22 @System 18 M 2015-08-26 09:49:12 <-- fedbot has kicked sebastian36 (Please don't flood the channel, use a pastebin link like https://paste.fedoraproject.org/) 2015-08-26 09:49:38 --> sebastian36 (~sebastian@cable-78-34-58-39.netcologne.de) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:49:59 sebastian36 yeah, i got kicked after writing that^^ 2015-08-26 09:50:15 fenrus02 sebastian36, use fpaste. 2015-08-26 09:50:18 fenrus02 dont paste here. 2015-08-26 09:50:42 Southern_Gentlem http://paste.fedoraproject.org 2015-08-26 09:51:11 <-- JacksonIsaac (uid13084@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lzthniidpuabwtxh) has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2015-08-26 09:51:24 <-- Quanttek (~quassel@ip1f11db5b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-08-26 09:52:17 sebastian36 http://paste.fedoraproject.org/259568/14405971/ 2015-08-26 09:52:37 <-- js9600 (~Thunderbi@87-57-20-106-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-08-26 09:52:44 nilekada Hi. I have a problem. I installed Wine on Fedora 22. When I did, it removed Chromium. Apparently the two conflict. Is there any workaround for this? 2015-08-26 09:53:19 <-- smaudet (~smaudet@206-51-157-11.nktelco.net) has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 2015-08-26 09:54:16 --> fmiz (5ff67c73@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.246.124.115) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:54:18 fenrus02 chromium doesnt ship with fedora .. likely the source of the conflict. 2015-08-26 09:54:19 --> thunderbirdtr (~thunderbi@fedora/thunderbirdtr) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 09:54:35 -- Jailout20001 is now known as Jailout2000 2015-08-26 09:56:18 fenrus02 weird. i cannot find the deps you have listed as deps sebastian36 2015-08-26 09:56:40 fmiz Hi all. I found a typo here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Virtualization_Spice_Features, section How to test, the command "ps axwww | spice-vdagent", grep is missing. Is ok just to report it here? 2015-08-26 09:56:48 fenrus02 sebastian36, did you run 'dnf update' ? 2015-08-26 09:56:57 striker fmiz: open a bugzilla please 2015-08-26 09:57:01 fenrus02 fmiz, no. bug report if you've found a bug 2015-08-26 09:57:21 <-- pschiffe (pschiffe@nat/redhat/x-gydhgtquadejzfsj) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2015-08-26 09:57:21 sebastian36 Did it right now, "nothing to do" ;-) 2015-08-26 09:57:22 striker fmiz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora%20Documentation 2015-08-26 09:57:23 ira I have 4.1.5-200 in my local repos, and I just synced up. 2015-08-26 09:57:41 sebastian36 the output for the remove is still the same after the update 2015-08-26 09:57:55 fmiz ok, so I need a fedora account now :D 2015-08-26 09:58:01 fenrus02 sebastian36, do you use l2tp? 2015-08-26 09:58:09 sebastian36 i have no idea what l2tp is 2015-08-26 10:19:22 --> bmbouter (bmbouter@nat/redhat/x-lfpkpccjagsuxopg) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 10:19:22 -- Topic for #fedora is "Fedora 21, 22 end-user support.|| Please READ: http://tinyurl.com/chanfaq || Common bugs/op: http://tinyurl.com/f21-bugs http://tinyurl.com/f22bugs || IRC Feedback: http://tinyurl.com/fedoraircsig || Updated Live isos: http://tinyurl.com/Live-respins || Default to OPEN: http://tinyurl.com/default-open" 2015-08-26 10:19:22 -- Topic set by N3LRX (n3lrx@fedora/N3LRX) on Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:05:17 2015-08-26 10:19:22 -- Channel #fedora: 550 nicks (2 ops, 0 voices, 548 normals) 2015-08-26 10:19:22 -- PvNotice(ChanServ): "Any advice you read here is provided by individual community members. You should use it at your OWN RISK. This advice is owned by each individual, and does NOT represent the views of Freenode, Fedora or Red Hat. This channel may be logged" 2015-08-26 10:19:24 -- Channel created on Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:59:18 2015-08-26 10:19:50 <-- Rumbles (~jstocker@109.234.205.197) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2015-08-26 10:20:01 --> dhollinger (~smuxi@207.188.41.10) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 10:20:28 <-- jrm16020 (~jyoung@unaffiliated/jrm16020) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-08-26 10:20:29 --> dkliban (dkliban@nat/redhat/x-bmsdqxevayxxhjnz) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 10:20:50 --> rsquared (rrati@nat/redhat/x-umcfikbawoffmcgx) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 10:21:22 <-- status402 (~status402@212.98.109.210) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2015-08-26 10:21:47 --> jbroome (jbroome@freenode/staff-emeritus/lopsa.member.jbroome) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 10:22:36 bmbouter Grinnz, fenrus02, Southern_Gentlem, linux-modder, I will respectuflly not change my nick in here 2015-08-26 10:22:39 <-- sebastian36 (~sebastian@cable-78-34-58-39.netcologne.de) has left #fedora 2015-08-26 10:23:05 bmbouter however fenrus02 your comment saying I'm entitled when I was asking for help was out of line sir 2015-08-26 10:23:17 <-- carl- (~carl@spacewalkers.comhem.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2015-08-26 10:23:56 linux-modder bmbouter, might wanna watch the blows you throw fenrus02 is a long time member here 2015-08-26 10:24:21 linux-modder well respected one at that 2015-08-26 10:24:26 bmbouter with respect, membership does not change the fact that it was disrespectful 2015-08-26 10:24:32 Southern_Gentlem bmbouter, i am about to call your boss about your attitude in this channel 2015-08-26 10:24:47 linux-modder ;/ 2015-08-26 10:25:09 Southern_Gentlem you are wearing a rh cloak 2015-08-26 10:25:42 --> vorpalblade77 (~vorpalbla@71-212-208-31.hlrn.qwest.net) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 10:26:01 Southern_Gentlem thats means you can be called on the carpet for your actions in thischannel 2015-08-26 10:26:12 Southern_Gentlem the rest of us are community members 2015-08-26 10:26:26 bmbouter I don't really know what to say I feel like I just expressed that I want to be respectful 2015-08-26 10:26:36 bmbouter yet you make a threat 2015-08-26 10:26:40 Southern_Gentlem but you wasnt 2015-08-26 10:26:57 Southern_Gentlem no i am not making threats i am telling you like it is 2015-08-26 10:27:12 striker I don't think this is a conversation to be had here 2015-08-26 10:27:33 bmbouter I agree completely, I want to be respectful and that is all 2015-08-26 10:27:47 Southern_Gentlem ok now what issues are you having 2015-08-26 10:30:38 <-- mayorga (~mayorga@fedora/mayorga) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-08-26 10:31:05 <-- bitchkat (~kjh@dev.flyballdogs.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2015-08-26 10:31:09 <-- Relsak (~relsak@unaffiliated/kasler) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-08-26 10:31:27 --> giarc (~giarc@fedora/giarc) has joined #fedora 2015-08-26 10:31:54 <-- vaughan (~vaughan@ppp59-167-111-83.static.internode.on.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2015-08-26 10:32:07 bmbouter I really think the threat was out of line given everything I've said 2015-08-26 10:32:16 bmbouter that's all I have to say
Thanks for your feedback!
irc logs of incident irc_incident.txt
The logs in the ticket look unreadable so I attached them as a text file.
bmbouter,
This ticket was resolved in today's Fedora IRC SIG Meeting. See the full log here:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-08-27/irc-support-sig.2015-08-27-17.00.html/ https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-08-27/irc-support-sig.2015-08-27-17.00.log.html/
The "Nick Changes" section of the FAQ has been modified to give more of a concrete understanding. Here's the new text:
Nick Changes
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