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My IRC nick is: JamesNZ
Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this ticket: The fedbot asked me to :D Also, I've noticed that the user BobJensen is rather abrupt at times. Often to the point of rudeness.
Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction: BobJensen, PetiteMoufette
Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on this feedback: He could be asked to be a bit more dipomatic when in a discussion.
Any additional notes or logs: Below is a direct copy/paste of some interactions on 29/11/12: {{{ <PetiteMoufette> hey guys what software can I use to write an ISO to disk? <BobJensen> PetiteMoufette: man yum <JamesNZ> PetiteMoufette: Brasero, K3B etc. There are lots ;) <BobJensen> PetiteMoufette: research how to conduct a SEARCH <PetiteMoufette> BobJensen, how about you don't rtfm people that's why people choose Ubuntu or Fedora because the support is better. <PetiteMoufette> JamesNZ, thank you <BobJensen> PetiteMoufette: There is no reason you can't search through the options <BobJensen> NONE <BobJensen> other than laziness <Khaytsus> PetiteMoufette: https://www.google.com/search?q=write+an+ISO+to+disk+fedora <Khaytsus> Seriously... <PetiteMoufette> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/newbie/189821-fedora-17-iso-burning.html <PetiteMoufette> that's what I got <PetiteMoufette> Anyway.. no need to bitch alvesadrian has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) <BobJensen> Then why did you? <PetiteMoufette> do you get your kicks from being a douche? or does it come off naturally? PetiteMoufette (~invisible@unaffiliated/afallenhope) has left #fedora ("Leaving") <BobJensen> and the support for Ubnutu is not "better" it is just different basic6 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) Pix has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) <JamesNZ> BobJensen: Seriously dude. It was just a question, you weren't required to answer. <BobJensen> JamesNZ: Neither were you <BobJensen> JamesNZ: and please don't call me dude. <mutk> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html-single/Burning_ISO_images_to_disc/index.html There is also a whole Documentation project guide at docs.fedoraproject.org <BobJensen> I've done nothing to insult you lenswipe has quit (Quit: Page closed) <JamesNZ> BobJensen: My apologies, but I don't think PetiteMoufette did anything to insult you either. <JamesNZ> No offense meant. <BobJensen> JamesNZ: I suppose in your book, I should have run the yum search myself and listed the 30 or so odd results for them? cool_code (~coolcode@gateway/tor-sasl/coolcode/x-71588274) has joined #fedora j_dulaney (~j_dulaney@cpe-075-178-032-162.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #fedora ffranz has quit (Quit: Leaving) Technicool has quit (Remote host closed the connection) <JamesNZ> No :) I would have listed the ones I knew of off the top of my head (which I did). And then tell them how to find the answer for themselves with yum (which I forgot). dneary has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) <JamesNZ> Again, no offense. <mutk> JamesNZ, I would have pointed them at the documentation, because that is what it is for.. :) * Robert_Laverick has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) <JamesNZ> mutk: Can't argue with that logic :D I just think that it's best to do so in a more diplomatic way. <JamesNZ> Anyway, lets get off that topic.... <fedbot> Hey, we want to make the channel better. How about dropping us a note and let us know how you feel the channel is doing, good or bad and give feedback about users or issues also. https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ (Tickets reviewed weekly) }}}
And then a little while later:
{{{ <PetiteMoufette> Firstly I wanted to say, sorry. My behaviour wasn't right and I apologize. I was in pure panic mode because for whatever the reason being I thought it was smart to follow a tutorial that was talking saying to get my game working I had to install catalyst drivers / kernel or whatever. Secondly, BobJensen I understand that you may feel that you're more superior than most because of whatever knowledge you have of Linux or Fedora or what n <PetiteMoufette> ot. Please mind the little people though that ask for assistance. I'm not one that requests answers I use IRC when all my Google..ing has failed me. To think you're actually booty-tickled from the incident is one thing but I would still like to apologize for my actions as they were rude. popehax (~leet@190.190.254.147) has joined #fedora linville has quit (Quit: Leaving) <Initia7_B> pm that please <mutk> PetiteMoufette, Here is a great reference BTW. You missed it - http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html-single/Burning_ISO_images_to_disc/index.html There is also a whole Documentation project guide at docs.fedoraproject.org <PetiteMoufette> mutk, yeah I found that when I searched. I didn't know if it applied to what I was trying to do. I simply used dd if=/home/invisibleheero/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb <BobJensen> PetiteMoufette: Firstly, piss off <BobJensen> PetiteMoufette: Secondly, It's not about being superior. <BobJensen> PetiteMoufette: it's about teaching you to help yourself <Initia7_B> PM = private message. <PetiteMoufette> Initia7_B, we know <Initia7_B> :-) <BobJensen> Initia7_B: I've no interest in PMs. PetiteMoufette was an inconsiderate publicly so any apology should be also. Ard1t (~Ard1t@unaffiliated/ard1t) has joined #fedora csmart (~chris@1.149.199.134) has joined #fedora <theborger> BobJensen: thanks for the links, those are helpfull <BobJensen> PetiteMoufette: Do NOT send me private messages }}}
IMHO this is very rude behaviour from BobJensen, admittedly PetiteMoufette probably shouldn't have implied that BobJensen thought he was superior, but even so I think that telling someone to "piss off" is totally uncalled for.
This was discussed in the previous two weeks meetings.
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