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Replying to [ticket:41 toshio]:
Dbus and default syslog variant are examples of "things needed to run a desktop session" or something.
I'd argue that syslog is also an example of "thing to run on a server", not just desktop.
<nod> (to things to run a server). Do we need a separate category for that, though? Maybe it would be -- "things that are needed for any Linux system". and "things that are needed for a modern desktop system".
Also note: dwalsh stated that restorecond is not needed and currently defaults to off so we should take that off the list.
Lennart proposed that we permit non-network services which do not require any configuration to be enabled by default, and also allow specific exceptions such as:
List of packages which contain services which currently autostart:
abrt acpid at audit autofs avahi bluez cluster-glue cobbler coda-client cpuspeed cronie ctrlproxy dbus dkms exim fence-virtd firebird-superserver firstboot fnfx freenx-server gadget gpm gvrpcd hal hsqldb ifplugd ipmiutil iptables iptables-ipv6 irqbalance iscsi-initiator-utils isdn4k-utils koji-builder libvirt libvirt-client lvm2 mdadm nfs-utils ocfs2-tools olpc-utils openct openslp-server openssh-server pcsc-lite pop-before-smtp portreserve preload qemu-common qemu-user quagga rhnsd rpcbind rp-pppoe rsyslog sblim-gather sendmail snort spice-vdagent sysklogd sysstat udev wine-desktop xen xen-runtime xinetd yum-updatesd
FESCo generated a list and exceptions, which I have added to the wiki here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/DefaultServices
See also: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/544
FESCo would like the FPC to review this and tell us if they don't like any parts of it or would like us to handle exceptions moving forward.
Replying to [comment:5 kevin]:
FESCo generated a list and exceptions, which I have added to the wiki here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/DefaultServices See also: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/544 FESCo would like the FPC to review this and tell us if they don't like any parts of it or would like us to handle exceptions moving forward.
If ifplugd is enabled by default then what happens if NetworkManager is installed, too? Same thing with rsyslog and sysklogd.
xinetd provides some simple unix services on its own, should they be enabled by default as well? I'm think not.
I'm not convinced about ifplugd, isdn4k-utils and rp-pppoe. I think they require some configuration to run properly. Moreover, rp-pppoe actually starts a server, while it can be used for client-only connections, too (and I think it usually is).
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