Ticket #25 (closed task: fixed)

Opened 5 years ago

Last modified 4 years ago

Fedora Test Day - i18n

Reported by: jlaska Owned by: petersen
Priority: major Milestone: Fedora 12
Component: Test Day Version:
Keywords: Cc: petersen, llim@…, vbenes@…, apeter@…, svenkate@…, kparal, rhe@…, mospina@…, ankit@…, dchen@…, tagoh@…, psatpute@…, pnemade@…
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Description

This ticket is intended to track progress towards the Oct-15-2009 Test Day focused on i18n verification. The hope is build on the lessons learned from the iBus test day, and organize a community test event around i18n. I'm by no means qualified to outline the technical needs of such an event. As such, I have cc'd the masters ... Jens and Lawrence on this ticket for their expertise.

One testing suggestion from Lawrence Lim was

I18N is focus on 4 main areas:
1. input method
2. font/rendering
3. printing
4. localisation

As for how to test, I think it has to be based around those 4 keys areas. For
example, write a para of text in japanese with input method, ensure the
font/chars shows properly. Print it out and also ensure the application used
for the above are localised to the specific locale.

Change History

comment:1 Changed 5 years ago by petersen

I created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-15 but still needs plenty more work.

comment:2 Changed 5 years ago by petersen

  • Owner set to petersen
  • Status changed from new to assigned

Clock is running and I realised that India will be on public holiday on 2009-10-15 dunno if we should consider a Fit'n'Finish on 2009-10-27 instead?

comment:3 Changed 5 years ago by jlaska

I just spoke to mclasen who owns the Fit and Finish test day slots. He does not have issue with using the 2009-10-27 slot. This is available if you would like to reassign.

comment:4 Changed 5 years ago by jlaska

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comment:5 Changed 5 years ago by anipeter

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comment:6 Changed 5 years ago by shanky

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Added myself to the cc list

comment:7 Changed 5 years ago by kparal

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comment:8 Changed 5 years ago by petersen

Ok 2009-10-27 sounds good to me now: since looks like we are too late for this week now... so let's do that.

comment:9 Changed 5 years ago by petersen

Can someone rename the wikipage? - I don't have permission to move it seems.

comment:11 Changed 5 years ago by jlaska

I've updated the main test day schedule to reflect this change as well (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_12_test_days). I also removed the wiki redirection from the old page in case we end up using that slot this week (unlikely).

comment:12 Changed 5 years ago by jlaska

Update, looks like the NSS test day has been cancelled. That opens up 2009-10-29 for a test day if you wish to use it.

comment:13 Changed 4 years ago by petersen

2009-10-29 sounds good :)

comment:14 Changed 4 years ago by rhe

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comment:15 follow-up: ↓ 17 Changed 4 years ago by rhe

I've draft some test cases on the site. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-27#Test_Cases

Feel free to add your ideas and discuss with me. :)

comment:16 Changed 4 years ago by rhe

I've updated the test cases under my understanding. Pls check it.:>

comment:17 in reply to: ↑ 15 ; follow-up: ↓ 18 Changed 4 years ago by jlaska

Replying to rhe:

I've draft some test cases on the site. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-27#Test_Cases

Feel free to add your ideas and discuss with me. :)

Hi Rui, thank you for taking time to create these test cases. I'm afraid I'm not well versed in testing different input methods, I would request help from folks more experienced in that area. I do have some comments on the cases from the perspective of a newbie. I have added the comments to the Discussion page for the applicable test cases. I hope they are helpful. The tests I put feedback on include:

Some of the initial feedback applies to all test cases. Can someone take a look at the remaining tests and provide feedback?

comment:18 in reply to: ↑ 17 Changed 4 years ago by rhe

Replying to jlaska:

Thanks for your comments,James, they are very helpful. I've made some modification regarding it. But since I'm also not very familiar with it, that's pretty much what I can do so far.:>

comment:19 Changed 4 years ago by petersen

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Thanks Rui. I will try to polish and finish it off today.

I moved the testday page to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-29 and updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_12_test_days.

comment:20 Changed 4 years ago by petersen

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comment:21 follow-up: ↓ 22 Changed 4 years ago by petersen

How about the Time?: Last time we pretty much ran the ibus day during APAC daytime, but would be happy to have more people in other timezones testing and helping if possible.

I edited the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-29 a bit - will do a bit more polishing after James has another look.

comment:22 in reply to: ↑ 21 ; follow-up: ↓ 24 Changed 4 years ago by jlaska

Replying to petersen:

How about the Time?: Last time we pretty much ran the ibus day during APAC daytime, but would be happy to have more people in other timezones testing and helping if possible.

I edited the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-10-29 a bit - will do a bit more polishing after James has another look.

Jens and Rui ... the pages are looking good. Thanks to both for your time & preparation. The only other thing I can think of is providing a few more breadcrumbs so that testers know what to try next. Keep in mind I'm coming at this with no idea what i18n verification entails. So correct me if I'm off-base.

For example, under the section How to test, you highlight different target areas. Perhaps we can add some more detail to that section to give testers additional guidance? Are there specific applications or desktop environments that you'd really like to see covered?

Also along those lines, perhaps having a few sample results in the test results tables ahead of time to provide an example for testers to follow?

On my side. I'll be asking for volunteers at today's Fedora QA meeting.

Rui, would you like to send out test day announcement to test-announce list (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce).

comment:23 Changed 4 years ago by petersen

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comment:24 in reply to: ↑ 22 Changed 4 years ago by rhe

Replying to jlaska:

Rui, would you like to send out test day announcement to test-announce list (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce).

OK, I'll send out the announcement tomorrow (28th Oct.).

comment:25 follow-up: ↓ 26 Changed 4 years ago by rhe

I've edited the 'How to test' part to add live image for testing. Is the link below right?

http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/

comment:26 in reply to: ↑ 25 ; follow-up: ↓ 27 Changed 4 years ago by jlaska

Replying to rhe:

I've edited the 'How to test' part to add live image for testing. Is the link below right?

http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/

That link should do nicely. If for some reason the nightly live images fail to build for tomorrow, I'll be happy to build live images and host them on fedorapeople.org.

Additionally, those live images are built using the standard live image kickstart files maintained by the spin-kickstarts project. If you wish to modify the live image package set to include additional i18n scripts/tests/packages ... just let me know. I can build new images that have exactly what you need.

comment:27 in reply to: ↑ 26 Changed 4 years ago by rhe

Replying to jlaska:

Additionally, those live images are built using the standard live image kickstart files maintained by the spin-kickstarts project. If you wish to modify the live image package set to include additional i18n scripts/tests/packages ... just let me know. I can build new images that have exactly what you need.

Thanks for your help, James. As far as I know, the usual one is ok for testing.

comment:28 follow-up: ↓ 29 Changed 4 years ago by anipeter

Done testing on ml_IN locale and have updated the wiki with the details. Some bugs found during my personal QA were filed earlier, however they have been recorded here on the wiki.

comment:29 in reply to: ↑ 28 Changed 4 years ago by jlaska

  • Status changed from assigned to closed
  • Resolution set to fixed

Thanks everyone for a great test event. As always, I encourage you to provide your comments/thoughts on how to make future test events more successful. For a summary of the testing, please see the report from Hurry ... https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-November/msg00038.html

Thanks, James

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