#5331 Please disable pkgdb notification to scm-commits
Closed: Fixed None Opened 7 years ago by remi.

= bug description =
- each package change generate 10-70 mails (commit, acl, bugzilla, for each branch)
- mass orphan generate thousands of message

= bug analysis =

= fix recommendation =
Please disable pkgdb notification to scm-commits


Example:
last week-end, mass-orphan from psbata have generated >51000 mails
Current mass-orphan by msrb have already generated >2000 mails today.

I am too subscribed to scm-commits list. Since last many years I have observed these things
1) mass-rebuild emails
2) pkgdb mass changes

I have reported this on IRC few times but did not get any confirm answer what can be done to this problem.
What simple solution I found is to filter these messages in new filter and delete emails in this filter at one click. I don't keep any pkgdb emails in my inbox.

Well, these are going there for a reason. We need a archived/public announcement of when acls or the like change, otherwise people wouldn't know unless they watched that specific package.

Some possible options:

  • We could make the acls/etc changes use digests. Unfortunately, this makes it impossible to search back for something and see when it happened because all the actions are bundled in emails.

  • We could split out notifications to another list and leave scm-commits just for scm-commits.

Or something else?

Another list seems a good idea.

I see a separate mailing list as the only reasonable solution if you assume that humans are actually going to read the commits list. I think that's actually arguable but I do browse through it when I have a few minutes of free time. People have other means to see the commits for the packages about which they actually care.

Client side filtering works, of course, but it seems that these days the number of people able to use it is shrinking. (I personally have a pretty huge Sieve script.)

I don't even know if Mailman 3 still has the subject tag filtering thing, but I don't think it was ever something that people would want to use.

That pretty much leaves a split, and there's a pretty obvious division in the mail sources so I don't think it would be particularly confusing.

Sounds like everyone is ok with a new list... so we will get things setup for that. (Although we may not flip the switch to it until after f24 is out).

ok. Things should be set.

The new https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/scm-notifications@lists.fedoraproject.org/2016/6/ list is live and gets all the pkgdb notices.

The old list (scm commits) should only now get git commits and lookaside uploads.

I'll write up an announcement for devel-announce on these changes.

Let me know if you see anything wrong...

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