#3366 Busted project email archives on fedorahosted.org :(
Closed: Fixed None Opened 11 years ago by justinclift.

= bug description =

Hi,

Just discovered a serious problem with the fedorahosted.org email archives.

At least some of our (important) messages are missing large amounts of content.

For example, this important Aeolus Community email, which we want to direct people
towards as reference:

https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/aeolus-devel/2012-June/010794.html

It's only '''1 sentence''' in your archives. 95% of it is missing. :(

The '''full''' version of it is included below. (significantly longer)

How do we go about getting this fixed? (and preferably making sure it doesn't
happen again)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

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Begin forwarded message:
From: Dan Macpherson dmacpher@redhat.com
Subject: ACA Side Topic - Proposal: templates.aeolusproject.org
Date: 8 June 2012 2:47:30 PM AEST
To: "aeolus-devel " aeolus-devel@fedorahosted.org

Hi guys,

I've been following the Aeolus Community Assessment conversation and I though I might start a separate e-mail chain regarding an idea I had instead of railroading the original conversation.

From what I saw of the original conversation, we're looking to build our community and evangelize Aeolus' strengths.

It's also been questioned as whether we'd recommend using Aeolus in it's current state in a production environment. This got me thinking... there's a difference between what we'd recommend to users, and what they'll actually do. By this, I mean that there might be a boffin or two somewhere who could devise some unique uses for Aeolus that we've never even thought of. And I think that what some might consider Aeolus's biggest weakness (it's still experimental) could end up being its biggest strength (experimental is fun and exciting!).

My proposal

We develop our own (for lack of a better word) "Apps Store" -- a place when users can share Image and Deployable templates for Aeolus, much along the same lines as addons.mozilla.org or extensions.gnome.org. And following these subdomain conventions, I suggest... templates.aeolusproject.org!

How it works

A user writes an image template and deployable for a particular application. For example, they might want to launch a base Drupal installation in EC2 using Fedora as an OS. So they write an Image Template that includes the relevant Apache and Postgres packages. They also write a Deployable Template that installs and configures Drupal (via Audrey) to an instance with httpd/db.

Then the user thinks, "Hey, I bet there are others out there who want to install Drupal in the cloud. Maybe I should share these templates with the world."

The user uploads the templates to templates.aeolusproject.org, tags them as an Image Template and Deployable Template respectively, and create an associates between the two (basically a way of signifying a relationship between an image/deployable pair that works well together).

So then, I want to create a Drupal site on a standalone instance in my own RHEV environment.

I search templates.aeolusproject.org and find someone has already created the templates I need. Perfect. (Plus I could substitute the Image template for one with a different distro if I prefer).

I use both these template in Aeolus and install Drupal on EC2. It works great!

I go back to templates.aeolusproject.org and give the template author a 5-star rating. Great job, everything went better than expected. Plus, the rating helps his Deployable Template becomes TOTM (Template of the Month).

But I also leave a comment to say, "Hey, great templates, but I think you should include a param in the deployable that allows a user to input a comma-separated list of additional modules for their Drupal installation." This way I'm helping improve the content of templates.aeolusproject.org through feedback.

Benefits

templates.aeolusproject.org does a couple of cool things:

  1. Encourages people to join, contribute and collaborate to the Aeolus community
  2. Encourages people to experiment with Aeolus and share their results
  3. Helps new users wanting to learn more about TDL/Deployable XML
  4. Provides users with a library of applications to launch into their cloud (and only needing two XML files to do so)
  5. Gives us a better idea of how people are using Aeolus so that we can enhance the features they like and improve the features they don't like

These are very rough ideas that I've come up with in a day, so please forgive me if they seem a little ill-thought. Regardless, I do think is an idea that can really enhance the Aeolus Community and the project too. If anyone has an ideas, suggestions, drawbacks or general comments, please share them.

Dan Macpherson
Content Author
Engineering Content Services
Red Hat Asia Pacific Pty Ltd
Brisbane, Australia

e: dmacpher@redhat.com

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= bug analysis =

= fix recommendation =


This is due to:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=834023

We are looking for a fix to the mailman package for this, but could do a hotfix sooner if someone can come up with a tested patch.

From the referenced BZ, it looks like a fix is in the works.

Is there an ETA for when this can be expected?

Currently investigating alternative email archive hosts, but would prefer using fedorahosted if this fix is to arrive soon.

We are happy to deploy/test a updated package as soon as one is available...

I've very very sorry this took so long to fix. ;(

It's fixed now, and it shouldn't happen again. ;(

I'm confused.

Isn't: https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/aeolus-devel/2012-June/010762.html

the message you saw that had problems?

Does it not look correct now?

I don't see anything wrong with the one you are refering to there. I checked it in the mbox file directly, and thats the complete contents...

Oops, you're right. Sorry Kevin.

Browser caching problem on my end. Cleared browser cache and yep, that message is the full version now. :)

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